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Katie: Howdy, and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com, that’s W-E-L-L-N-E-S-S-E.com. It’s my new private care line that’s EWG protected and completely pure. And this episode, I’m right here with a great good friend of mine, Tero Isokauppila, who’s a real enjoyable man, pun meant. So, Tero’s roots, or mycelium in his phrases, if you’ll, are in Finland the place he grew up foraging for mushrooms and different wild meals on his household farm that they’ve owned since 1619. He later earned a level in chemistry, enterprise and a certificates in plant-based vitamin from Cornell College. In 2012, he based 4 Sigmatic, which is considered one of my favourite firms. It’s an organization dedicated to elevating our every day routines by making every single day magical by utilizing revolutionary mushroom-based merchandise, like mushroom espresso, edible skincare, and so forth.

He’s an knowledgeable in all issues associated to mushrooms, adaptogens, well being, startups and punny dad jokes. He’s additionally the writer of two bestselling books, “Therapeutic Mushrooms” and “Santa Bought Shrooms,” which is a youngsters’s ebook. On this episode, in mild of all the pieces occurring at present, we go deep not nearly pure skincare and the way what you place in your physique goes into your physique, but in addition concerning the immune system and the way we will help our our bodies from the within out and the skin in, in disturbing instances and ensure that we’re optimally set as much as deal with no matter life throws at us. So, with out additional ado, let’s bounce proper in with Tero.

Tero, welcome, thanks for being right here once more.

Tero: Thanks for having me on. It’s all the time a pleasure, particularly now in these wild, wild instances that we’re dwelling in.

Katie: It has gotten a little bit wild. I undoubtedly know we each need to discuss that a little bit bit at present and there’s actually so much that you would be able to share on a number of completely different points of this. However to begin off, what I used to be initially bringing you on to speak about at present earlier than issues received a little bit wild all through the nation is you will have just lately launched a skincare line by 4 Sigmatic and I’ve additionally been in improvement within the private care world for my toothpaste and shampoo and have achieved a number of analysis on this world during the last 12 months, and in order that’s a extremely necessary matter to cowl. And I do know that we’ll truly tie this into immunity and to another subjects which might be very high of thoughts at present. However to begin, I’d love to listen to about what went into the event of your skincare merchandise, and to the purpose that, from my understanding, they’re truly even not simply okay to eat however truly absolutely edible. So discuss that and the way that happened.

Tero: Yeah, we launched our skincare line earlier this 12 months and it’s been a wild trip. It happened so much by client suggestions, so a number of our prospects and neighborhood was asking for skincare merchandise. They learn in my ebook and different sources how mushrooms and adaptogens may help with pores and skin they usually’d seen it in different skincare merchandise extra that use mushrooms or adaptogens that in any other case might need not been fairly as clear. And so a number of client suggestions and simply studying from, significantly, the Korean and Japanese cultures, magnificence worlds, and the way a few of these mushrooms may help enhance pores and skin high quality.

And the issue with me was that I don’t actually use skincare and I take advantage of like ultra-pure private care merchandise as properly that have been exhausting to search out and there’s not a product in the marketplace that match my private high quality requirements. And I wished extra transparency, I wished extra of actual meals components and that type of impressed us to launch our first skincare merchandise which might be additionally absolutely edible. So a face masks that can also be sizzling chocolate utilizing actually easy components like cacao, spices, mushrooms, adaptogens however you can too put it in your pores and skin.

Katie: I like that. I’m very a lot on the identical web page with you about that and I feel most individuals have a passing understanding that what we placed on our our bodies will get into our our bodies to a point however I feel individuals don’t essentially all the time understand the extent to which after we put dangerous issues on our pores and skin, a number of that does truly enter the bloodstream, it does enter our physique, and in addition adjustments our pores and skin microbiome and may impression even by that our intestine microbiome and all types of issues down the highway. So let’s discuss a few of the widespread issues individuals must know and keep away from in relation to conventional skincare merchandise.

Tero: Yeah, simply to construct off of that, I feel lots of people, like, vaguely know that what will get put in your pores and skin will get into your bloodstream, however such as you mentioned, they don’t understand the extent, which to me is a little bit shocking as a result of after we purchase a nicotine patch or one thing, the nicotine does go into our bloodstream. So we don’t assume that these plastics and different harsh chemical compounds will enter our bloodstream as properly, that’s type of, to me, a little bit shocking. So one is simply getting actual good understanding is that a large a part of issues that we put in our pores and skin will enter our bloodstream to the extent that if you happen to swim in beer, you get drunk. In case you take a shower with magnesium or Epsom salt, you’re going to get that into your bloodstream and calm down. And we simply don’t take that under consideration. And lots of people say that, properly, it’s only a small quantity, however that small quantity every single day a number of instances builds up so once you use a toothpaste or a skincare serum each day, if not twice a day, then that’s going to have an enormous, type of, compounding impact. In order that’s clearly an excellent start line.

The opposite factor is I feel understanding the business is basically useful. We purchase actually costly skincare merchandise and in addition private care merchandise, realizing how a lot does it truly price to make them? And that is all public info however if you happen to go to L’Oreal and Estee Lauder’s web site, you understand that they spend 3% to 4% of their gross sales on the precise product. So it’s quite common that you simply purchase a $100 skincare product the place it solely prices $1 what’s contained in the bottle after which $2 to $Four on packaging and the remainder is simply margin. All these fancy advertisements that they do and fashions they pay and opulent way of life, that’s paid by promoting you $1 of worth for $100 of price, and I feel that’s additionally fairly unhappy and irritating. So these may be two good issues to consider once you usually strategy skincare and different, type of, magnificence and luxurious merchandise.

Katie: I agree, and what I discovered actually attention-grabbing as I began researching this world as properly is that you simply’re proper, individuals don’t actually acknowledge simply how a lot can enter our physique from the skin, however on the identical time usually will take a look at any type of pores and skin downside as a purely exterior downside. So if it’s pimples, they assume they should deal with it simply with one thing topical on the pores and skin they usually don’t assume by the truth that…and we now know from the analysis a lot of that’s truly inner. Any pores and skin downside is originating within the physique someplace and we’re simply seeing it on the pores and skin as an outward expression of that. So let’s additionally speak concerning the vitamin and inner aspect of how we will enhance our pores and skin from the within out as properly.

Tero: Sure. So sure, it could begin with what pores and skin is and what does it do? So pores and skin is our largest organ and it’s constructed from cells like the rest. So if you happen to stay wholesome or unhealthy and what’s the standard of your mitochondria and your cells will impression together with your pores and skin. It’s only a distinction between topical skincare and ingestible skincare, ingestible magnificence is the timeframe. Pores and skin doesn’t rejuvenate itself every single day. Relying on how previous you’re, it might take anyplace from 20 to 40 days, and even longer if you happen to’re older. So once you eat for magnificence and have a nutritious diet, that basically helps you long-term versus topical skincare can resolve an issue at present, and like many different types of well being, we’re usually drawn to the quick fast repair, proper, and that’s type of a bummer.

However topical skincare may help with, I might say, the signs, however if you wish to work on the trigger, you need to have a wholesome physique, wholesome cells. That additionally implies that when you will have a wholesome physique, wholesome cells, wholesome pores and skin, you want much less product and the product works higher. So consuming for pores and skin is so so necessary, and there are particular vitamins which might be significantly good for the pores and skin if you happen to consider what the pores and skin does. I feel you already partially touched upon it, however the aesthetic aspect of the pores and skin is only one of just about, I might say, 7, eight capabilities of the pores and skin, you possibly can even prolong it to 10 completely different capabilities the pores and skin does, and the aesthetic half is only one.

Our pores and skin will contact, it should shield us from temperature adjustments, it should shield our absorption of vitamins, even oxygen. Folks don’t know however the pores and skin absorbs oxygen. However the massive factor, I feel, to me, is safety. So there’s immunity on our pores and skin. In addition to being the primary barrier towards pathogens, it’s additionally the place a number of our immunity lives. We’ll all the time have micro organism, so in case you are fearful of micro organism, it’s simply good to know that irrespective of how a lot you scrub your pores and skin with this coronavirus, with cleaning soap or others, there’ll all the time be micro organism in your pores and skin. you possibly can by no means out-scrub your micro organism. And wherever there’s micro organism, there’s additionally going to be mushrooms.

, you will have your microbiome, additionally which is your mushroom biome, and never simply your intestine biome. So each your intestine and your pores and skin will all the time have micro organism and all the time have mushrooms. It’s simply the query turns into what sort of micro organism and what sort of mushrooms does your pores and skin have and are they supporting your immunity and your aesthetic perform or are they hurting your immunity and aesthetic perform? So it’s simply crucial to know that topical skincare may help short-term however with the intention to have long-term good pores and skin, you want this ingestible magnificence and also you wanted to know that irrespective of how a lot you scrub your pores and skin, there’ll all the time be micro organism and mushrooms in it and that with sure kinds of vitamins, you possibly can assist your pores and skin additionally internally in addition to externally.

Katie: Yeah, completely. I feel, on the finish of the day, that’s the important thing, it’s not both/or, it’s each and all the time. And I feel that I observed that after I was a young person and I struggled with pimples, I attempted to deal with it topically for a very long time and it wasn’t till I addressed issues like intestine well being and all the interior components associated to well being did that absolutely resolve itself. So I’m curious, each on a private stage and I do know that you simply do a number of analysis on this space to your merchandise, what ought to we be consuming for good, pores and skin what ought to we be avoiding for the sake of our pores and skin and our general well being, and the way does that work, like what does your precise routine seem like for that?

Tero: Yeah, I imply the dangerous information is that you must take a number of issues into consideration. The excellent news is that the identical issues that you simply consider to having stunning pores and skin are additionally the belongings you consider to have common longevity, have immunity, have robust cognitive perform. So all of those are very a lot linked. I discussed one of many issues that you must consider is your intestine biome and your microbiome. So your intestine well being, that’s extremely necessary. And this may go each methods. This may be eradicating issues out of your food regimen that may be dangerous to your intestine in addition to including issues like probiotics, prebiotics, good micro organism, good mushrooms into your food regimen. So intestine well being is unquestionably one main think about pores and skin well being.

The opposite one is irritation, and I might even say irritation/stress. Your pores and skin will be all types of…have irritation/stress infections, rashes, and calming down the physique general is basically useful. On the finish of the day, in all probability one of the best factor you are able to do to your pores and skin is sleep. The most effective factor for something in your well being might be sleep. So simply sustaining wholesome stress ranges and type of preventing off irritation, and the intestine well being is clearly very linked to that irritation, as you properly know. The second could be stress. It’s very useful.

After which lastly, any kinds of antioxidants, significantly sure kinds of polyphenols that you would be able to…and sure shade pigments are significantly good for the pores and skin. So we will deep dive on what could be these meals that may be actually good to your pores and skin. However to summarize, intestine well being, stress administration/irritation, and antioxidants, these could be simply three, type of, key issues I might take note when consuming to your pores and skin.

Katie: Bought it. I like that. And yeah, we will undoubtedly go into extra specifics inside every of these classes. And I feel this dovetails completely with an space that I need to discuss and I’m so glad I get to speak about with you, which matches alongside hand-in-hand with this, and that’s immunity. And anyone listening to this, I do know there’s a number of discuss that proper now and there’s a number of, I feel, in all probability overwhelmed and a few concern occurring. And also you’re considered one of my favourite individuals to speak to about this as a result of I do know that you simply come from a really level-headed place and a well-researched place and that you simply’re not going to buy-in to the entire concern, however you’re additionally in all probability taking a really sensible and research-backed strategy. So I’d like to type of dovetail this now into the realm of immunity and the way we will all use sure useful meals and merchandise to help our immune methods throughout this time.

Tero: Yeah, once more, taking the 10,000 meals perspective first is that immunity, sadly, just isn’t high of thoughts for lots of people, even actually wholesome individuals. They are saying that no person buys an umbrella except it’s raining and that very same goes for immunity as properly. So only a few individuals give attention to immunity except it’s the “immune season,” which implies the flu season. So lots of people are centered on the flu season. And let’s be sincere, lots of people die of the flu each single 12 months. However the immunity doesn’t take breaks. The immunity doesn’t know that there’s an immune season. It’s simply one thing you must consider on a regular basis and never simply due to staying wholesome but in addition as a result of the immune perform is a lot linked with different areas of our life, together with the pores and skin and cognitive perform.

However again to the immune perform, you should have this inner safety system that begins along with your pores and skin. However you should have these inner safety officers in your physique, pure killer cells, cytokines, white blood cells, they usually’re there to guard you. And make little doubt about it, every single day there shall be intruders in your physique. There isn’t any option to, like, shield your self even if you happen to’re in quarantine of all pathogens. Like, there’ll all the time be pathogens making an attempt to enter your physique and every single day your physique is preventing off, that by no means ends. Positive, at instances, these intruders may be stronger and may require extra of resistance out of your physique, and in case your inner safety is low, you may get the flu or a cough or extended in individuals with poor immune methods they usually may be a little bit extra delicate to issues like most cancers.

There’s additionally one other aspect of that is that in case your immune system is hyperactive versus passive, it implies that your physique is so actively making an attempt to battle off that it will possibly’t even battle off wholesome cells and issues that aren’t intruders. That is when allergy symptoms and autoimmune issues can actually construct up. So our immune system is kind of sophisticated and clever however at instances it’s both passive or hyperactive and that’s when the every day battle towards these pathogens can get actually tough. So, subsequently, you need to be feeding your immune system on an ongoing foundation with good things. I discussed intestine well being being fairly very important for it and for that purpose, like not being afraid of micro organism on mushrooms however understanding that these will all the time be a part of your self and simply having good micro organism mushrooms, which type of takes us to the options.

Like, what are you able to do to enhance immunity? Nicely, once more, it’s what you don’t do and what you do. What you don’t do might be feed off your physique with processed meals, sugars, and customary allergens. These won’t be one of the best factor to your physique versus what’s superb is issues that feed the immune system. And clearly, my massive ardour is mushrooms and these mushrooms have these explicit kinds of polysaccharides, significantly these beta-D-glucans which might be among the many most studied issues for immunity they usually have these immunomodulatory advantages which might be capable of modulate the immune system both extra energetic or extra passive relying in your physique is at want. You may also discover these beta-D-glucans in small quantities in issues like oats and sure berries like goji berries however they’re probably the most prevalent in these mushrooms.

After which the opposite factor is prebiotics, so good fibers into your physique will feed off in your intestine, the great kinds of micro organism and fungi. So including fibers and prebiotics and including these mushroom extracts into your food regimen is among the greatest methods. On high of that, there’s extra seasonal options that you simply may need to take into account if you understand that you simply’re more likely to get, within the flu season, hit a little bit more durable resembling excessive dose of vitamin C, sure minerals resembling zinc. However you bought to watch out with sure vitamins which might be promoted for immune perform resembling echinacea, even garlic. In case you devour them on an ongoing foundation, they’re immunostimulants, they stimulate the immune system, however if you happen to use them on a chronic foundation, your immune system may get overstimulated. So that you need to search for each seasonal options that may work nice for just a few months of the 12 months. You additionally need to be conscious, which a kind of you need to use year-round, and mushrooms are nice simply because these reishi mushrooms, and shiitakes, and chagas, you possibly can devour year-round.

Katie: That’s an excellent level. Yeah, I’m an enormous fan of biking most dietary supplements for that purpose of not letting the physique ever adapt to it and since then they will have reverse penalties, such as you mentioned, sooner or later and I like that mushrooms are one of many ones that we will safely devour every single day, and I actually do. I do know that you simply do in addition to. Are there any particular suggestions in relation to mushrooms that you simply’re particularly centered on proper now simply within the curiosity of supporting your physique and your immune system?

Tero: Yeah, I might take a look at these mushroom polysaccharides and beta-D-glucans like chlorophyll. You in all probability need to devour chlorophyll each day into your physique, but it surely doesn’t imply you eat spinach every single day. You in all probability need to have arugula, you in all probability need to have nettle or dandelion. You need to, type of, rotate the kinds of chlorophylls that you simply’re consuming the identical means you need to in all probability rotate a little bit bit of those mushrooms. However for the sake of immunity functions alone, all the highest mushrooms have these beta-D-glucans for immunomodulatory functions, but when there’s one celebrity for immunity significantly, it’s the chaga mushroom, C-H-A-G-A, and it’s getting a number of consideration now contemplating the place the world is on simply the distinctive capabilities that that chaga mushroom has after which its skill to help the immune system.

So if individuals are in search of options for immunity, I both advocate a mix of a number of mushrooms, you understand, anyplace from like 5 to 10 of the highest mushrooms in extract kind, so attempt to discover merchandise which have a fruiting physique, which might be extracted, they usually’re natural, these could be the three high quality components, and taking a mix of 5 to 10 mushrooms every day. Or if you happen to actually need to have a bazooka impact for immune system, then I might actually search for chaga mushroom significantly, like a excessive dose, over 1000 mg of wildcrafted chaga extract would in all probability be an answer I might take into account, and mixing that with a excessive dose of vitamin C, each for absorption of the actives within the mushroom but in addition common immune help. So that may be my advisable protocol.

Katie: I find it irresistible. And I do know additionally that you simply stay a really holistic life and give attention to a number of different components as properly. So separate of simply meals and dietary supplements and issues that we must always undoubtedly all be centered on, I’m curious if there’s some other issues you’re altering or optimizing proper now? As an illustration, I’m ensuring that we’re spending time open air and getting motion every single day, which we do anyway, however ensuring that’s a spotlight, identical with daylight, correct hydration, sauna use, which in fact, I do know that you simply’re additionally an enormous fan of. Are there different issues that you simply’re ramping up or implementing proper now?

Tero: Yeah, I feel it is a nice level. I feel after we journey, for instance, we regularly don’t modify our habits though our exterior world is altering. So we’ve got this factor the place a number of us don’t have a seasonal routine. We all the time type of attempt to stay year-round in the same means, and I don’t assume that’s actually the best. Clearly, you visited Finland, you see how the variations within the winter and summer time. So we’ve got to stay seasonally and I take a look at it is a stunning factor even when I don’t must at present. So I strive to have a look at the exterior world and in addition my inner schedule is like, how is my inner schedule and the way do I want to regulate my habits? And proper now, clearly, the exterior world has gone the other way up and issues like immunity are at the next worth. So I’m making an attempt to regulate my habits to extra be in keeping with the place the world is correct now and the way is my every day routine?

So there’s sure issues I do on a regular basis resembling resting to creating positive that I’m not overly stressing my physique anyway, so perhaps additional sleep or a nap is one thing very useful proper now to not…In case you push your physique too exhausting, you’re additionally placing your immunity in jeopardy extra. So additional relaxation is one thing I’m conscious of. You talked about the opposite one, which is sweating within the type of motion and within the type of sauna can also be fairly, fairly useful proper now. In order that’s one other means how one can take away toxins but in addition help the physique with this stunning type of smooth hormetic stressors. In order that’s one thing I might be extra conscious of now. Folks love to remain indoors on this present state of affairs, which is sensible, however simply so you understand that even the cleanest indoor air won’t be higher than exterior air. So having perhaps your home windows open, doorways open, going for a stroll, no matter you are able to do to get recent air is especially useful. So even well-purified indoor air will in all probability all the time lose to exterior air. So these are issues that I undoubtedly take note.

The opposite factor that I’ve been actually ramping up is spices. I feel spices are a few of the most underrated issues in well being and wellness, plus they usually style nice. They’re one thing that everyone can afford, no matter your funds is, take excessive quantities of spices. They’re good to your intestine well being. Additionally they include these like fairly immune-supporting advantages. So ramping up ginger, turmeric, cinnamon, cardamon, clove, they’re fairly protecting of the physique, and discovering methods how one can begin including spices to every day life is among the best methods. And proper now, within the winter, I anyway add extra spices however given the state of affairs, I’m similar to doubling down on increasingly spices and numerous peppers may be one thing enjoyable to experiment with. If you wish to type of get loopy, numerous type of spicy, sizzling peppers may be one thing value exploring.

After which yeah, I’m simply doubling down on my adaptogen mushroom utilization proper now on high of that. However having that seasonal outlook in life, normally, might be going to serve you properly, not making an attempt to stay on a regular basis the identical means and having braveness to go over regular dosages. So no matter is your dosage in vitamin D or vitamin C, this may be a time once you go over these regular suggestions and having the braveness…particularly with these water-soluble nutritional vitamins, having the braveness to take increased dosages.

Katie: Yeah, I completely agree. Even issues like vitamin D, I do know usually, I might advocate getting that examined, which may be tough to do with the entire present issues occurring, or there may be a delay in getting examined however we all know from the analysis, for example, that in case you have low vitamin D ranges in your physique, you’re truly extra in danger for respiratory issues and all types of issues. And in order that’s one which I’ve been giving my household simply to ensure all of our vitamin D ranges are in good ranges as a result of proper now, we’re not getting as a lot solar as we might be in the summertime months. Such as you mentioned, identical with vitamin C, there’s some actually robust information on that for the immune system and that’s one thing that’s water-soluble that we will all enhance at instances like this.

I additionally love that you simply’ve touched on the mindset aspect as a result of I feel that’s an space that hopefully we’re all working to optimize our diets and our sleep is a large one, such as you mentioned, issues like that. But when we’re additionally dwelling in a state of sympathetic nervous system as a result of we’re overwhelmed and fearful and panicking, that’s additionally actually not good for the immune system and I feel that’s one factor that’s on my thoughts a lot proper now could be simply the thought, that encouragement of taking a deep breath, nonetheless having gratitude, nonetheless discovering calm, nonetheless specializing in those who we love and neighborhood and mindset even when the subsequent few weeks proceed to get a little bit bit loopy however protecting these issues, supporting one another inside no matter means we’re capable of at this level, and simply nonetheless specializing in the gratitude and the great. And I do know that’s usually your mindset as properly and that you simply proceed to stay in a constructive mindset by this as properly. Any mindset ideas as we face all this uncertainty proper now?

Tero: Yeah, truly, a good friend of mine was asking like, “How are you so calm on this complete state of affairs?” Like, I’m going to get to the massages at some Asian therapeutic massage place, and he was like, “How are you so calm about it?” And I used to be saying, properly, A, I care for my immunity on a regular basis so I really feel fairly assured about that half. The opposite half is I do know that just like the significance of your thoughts and the way that additionally impacts your physiology, for instance, your endocrine system if you happen to’re always in a mode of concern, in battle or flight, how that really decreases sleep high quality, hurts your immunity. So there’s a compounding impact of the thoughts that impacts our stress, sleep, and immunity, in order that’s why I feel it’s so, so useful.

And simply to make it ultra-specific is, for instance, individuals are proper now obsessive about washing their palms and significantly hand sanitizers. And I feel this may probably backfire if you happen to overdo this. To not say that good hygiene just isn’t necessary, it’s, however if you happen to’re always sanitizing your palms with harsh alcohol or hand sanitizers, it will possibly have a fairly large impression in your pores and skin and your biome in your pores and skin, and that’s why I feel, like, cleaning soap is so superb due to these, type of, like, friendlier fat to our pores and skin and utilizing fat, normally, is an efficient tip in these tough instances. Simply the fixed fear about washing your palms will double down on cortisol that can additional then damage your sleep high quality, and poor sleep high quality will decrease your immunity. It’s a vicious circle.

So I feel this second is a good alternative to follow your Zen habits and follow issues like gratitude turns into much more necessary. So when issues are loopy and looks as if it’s been a tough 2020 up to now, what are you able to do to be grateful, what are you able to be grateful of? And discovering these moments of magnificence in your life proper now, after which if you happen to’re actually pressured, including follow like meditation, or what I like is chilly publicity and breathwork. So perhaps a breathwork session can truly assist mitigate a few of that stress that you’ve got. However simply so you understand is that taking precautions is wise however stressing about it will damage you greater than helps you.

So it is a nice time to search out gratitude and pleasure and sweetness round you and to not dwell on concern that a lot. And it’s clearly simpler mentioned than achieved and there’s a number of issues about us, our well being, and our family members, however realizing that management what you possibly can management and also you don’t all the time management what occurs round you however you management the response it has on you. That’s simply one thing each will assist, and in addition happiness, it’s good to be conscious and meditate a little bit bit on.

Katie: I completely agree. I’m an enormous fan of a number of the stoic philosophers and a phrase that comes up so much with them is “amor fati,” which implies principally love your destiny or love what’s, and I feel that’s straightforward to do when issues are straightforward or good or affluent or instances are straightforward, and I feel that’s much more necessary to do at instances like this when issues are unsure or appear loopy or uncontrolled. And in order that’s been one thing I’ve tried to give attention to. I like your recommendations on respiration and meditation and chilly publicity. Actually, I do know not everybody has entry to saunas or chilly plunges however you are able to do a number of that at dwelling in your bathe and your bathtub, and respiration we will all do all over the place.

And similar to you mentioned, give attention to protecting stress ranges down and protecting give attention to the constructive. I feel that goes such a great distance towards staying wholesome and never panicking and realizing that for many individuals who even when we get the virus, hopefully, it could be very uncomfortable however our immune system will have the ability to deal with it, particularly if we will optimize all these components. Such as you mentioned, relaxation, get daylight, get methods to help our immune system. Till then, I do know that whilst an organization, you guys are ensuring that you simply’re maintaining with merchandise and getting issues out to individuals, all of those immune-supporting merchandise that you simply guys carry. So for anybody who’s new to you guys or to your merchandise, the place would you advocate them beginning, particularly proper now with all of this occurring, with making an attempt mushroom merchandise?

Tero: Yeah. So for me, the large factor has all the time been compliance. Well being and wellness, each you and I in all probability do 17 issues each hour for our well being, proper? I do know once you journey, you’re a little bit pharmacy your self with all these dietary supplements. And if someone who’s new to it appears to be like at that, that may really feel very overwhelming, you’re like, “Wow, that’s a number of belongings you do,” and it doesn’t must be sophisticated. So there’s an 80-20 rule to well being and wellness as properly and we do the remainder as a result of we stay the life-style, we take pleasure in it. But when there’s some issues the place you begin…I all the time advocate first upgrading an current ritual versus making an attempt to invent a brand new ritual, and it’s only a extra sustainable means of bettering and upgrading your well being and wellness.

So for us, an enormous a part of the place most individuals begin is our espresso merchandise that additionally embody, by the way in which, the chaga mushroom that I discussed for immunity. So taking a mushroom espresso, both an prompt espresso or floor espresso format might be the place most individuals begin. The mushroom espresso provides you a traditional espresso expertise that tastes just like your cup of espresso but it surely doesn’t provide the jitters or the heartburn. It’s type of extra comfy to your intestine. After which on high of it, with out even fascinated about it, you get this immune help on high of the deal. In case you don’t drink espresso, we additionally make issues like sizzling chocolate, that may be a great start line.

And we simply attempt to take issues like skincare, protein powders, different issues that you simply may already be doing to your well being and attempt to discover methods find out how to make it cleaner and higher for you, you understand, not that completely different from what you’re constructing on the non-public care aspect. It’s like, okay, you’re going to brush your tooth anyway, let’s just remember to’re doing that in a aware means, and the identical what we’re doing with espresso, tea, cocoa, protein, skincare is simply making an attempt to improve your current merchandise and rituals by containing the world’s most nutrient-dense, you understand, components and not one of the dangerous, dangerous issues that usually get included in these merchandise that aren’t vital. In order that’s, type of, it. So espresso is, for most individuals, the start line or one thing like a morning smoothie with our protein powder.

Katie: I find it irresistible. And I ought to have talked about it earlier within the episode, however I do have a particular touchdown web page with you guys at foursigmatic.com/wellnessmama and I do know you’ve additionally graciously given us a reduction code, wellnessmama, to save lots of 15%. And like I discussed, these are merchandise which might be very a lot a part of my every day routine and a part of my life and my household’s life repeatedly so I’m an enormous fan of the lion’s mane espresso within the morning and I try this many mornings, or your matcha, after which all through the day, particularly proper now, I’m loading up on the chaga and cordyceps and lion’s mane, after which virtually each night earlier than mattress, my husband I drink reishi collectively.

So I really feel like not simply are we pals however you’re, by your organization, so, a lot part of my every day life and I’m grateful to have entry to those merchandise, proper now particularly, with the added give attention to immune help.

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Let’s loop again to the skincare just a bit bit earlier than we wrap up as a result of I do know lots of people that these are new merchandise for you guys, lots of people could not have tried them but. So simply stroll us by the merchandise that you’ve got and the way they work.

Tero: Yeah, so we launched our first three merchandise. We’ve a superfood serum that provides you extra glow. We use actual fruits which might be anyway good for pores and skin internally and externally resembling olive oil and avocado oil. So once more, fat are your good friend each internally and topically. So if you wish to get that, you understand, island pores and skin, avocado is a good supply, that Mediterranean pores and skin, olive has been used for a very long time, after which we add good oils such a grapefruit, frankincense, and there’s no preservatives so we use pure issues like honeysuckle and the frankincense to supply stability to the product. So a serum, which is a reasonably inexpensive natural serum, $55 for a bottle, and it is available in Miron glass, all our merchandise are available in Miron glass. In case you’re not aware of Miron glass, it’s like the absolute best glass to forestall daylight from coming into it. So once you use these good oils, it’s necessary to ensure that daylight doesn’t penetrate or oxidize these. However the serum might be the place most individuals begin on the skincare aspect.

We even have a face masks that I discussed, but it surely additionally doubles as a sizzling chocolate. It’s a powdered face masks that purifies the pores and skin. It accommodates these mushrooms like chaga and reishi, adaptogens like ashwagandha and gotu kola, and it is available in these handy particular person packets, you possibly can simply simply journey with them or on the go, simply add a little bit little bit of water, put it in your face. And you can too eat it and it tastes like brownie batter. However it’s full of wonderful cleaning issues like ashwagandha, reishi, but in addition bentonite clay that’s type of cooling but cleaning for the pores and skin.

After which we’ve got a physique butter, which is the Swiss military knife of our skincare merchandise at this level. So you should utilize that in your nails and your hair. Once more, it is available in Miron glass and it makes use of issues like cacao, like type of natural plant butters and oils, so simply cacao butter. It has natural mango seed butter, which is superb. Once more, olive oil, walnut oil, so these wholesome fatty acids is one thing your pores and skin can use and what’s cool concerning the physique butter is that you would be able to additionally…I take advantage of it after I journey to make a butter espresso. So I simply take a little bit little bit of my physique butter and put in a cup and revenue. So these are actually so clear that you would be able to eat them. They’re meant topically however if you wish to put them in your physique, they’re made out of meals.

Katie: I find it irresistible. I like that. I’ve tried all of them they usually’re superior and I undoubtedly would advocate them. I’m, such as you, an enormous fan of not placing something in your physique that you simply wouldn’t be prepared to eat or put in your physique, and that was my focus with the toothpaste and hair care as properly. So I’ll ensure there are hyperlinks to all the pieces we’ve talked about within the present notes at wellnesmama.fm. And naturally, if you happen to’re listening, the hyperlink shall be there but in addition ensure to take a look at foursigmatic.com/wellnessmama to get the low cost on any of those merchandise. I simply stocked majorly up on a number of months’ value of all of them in case we want additional, and it’s exhausting to get them so I’m properly stocked and I might encourage you guys too as properly. However Tero, thanks for the time at present and for all of the work you place into these merchandise and into schooling and into simply spreading positivity on the earth.

Tero: Thanks, Katie, and thanks for having me on, and thanks for additionally doing the schooling work you do. I come throughout individuals on a regular basis who comply with you and mentioned you’ve made an impression on their life and clearly, it’s a really tough and disturbing time so taking a standard sense strategy to well being, wellness, and immunity is so useful. So thanks for the work you do as properly.

Katie: Nicely, thanks. And due to all of you for listening and for becoming a member of us at present. We’re so grateful that you simply did and we’re grateful for you sharing your most precious asset, which is your time, and I hope that you simply all keep wholesome and protected and calm throughout this loopy time and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the “Wellness Mama” podcast.

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