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Katie: Hi there, and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com, that’s “wellnesse” with an E on the top. And this particular episode is all about some sensible and evidence-based methods and dietary supplements that I’m utilizing to deal with intestine and immune well being proper now and to maintain my household, hopefully, protected and effectively. And I really feel like supporting immune well being and intestine well being, that’s vital on a regular basis, one thing we will all all the time enhance and it’s actually vital to do anytime, however particularly vital proper now, which is why I requested my buddy Tina Anderson of Simply Thrive Well being to hitch me at present. And we discuss a number of merchandise which are backed by scientific research, together with her probiotic which is backed by a double-blind placebo examine, and the consequences these can have on intestine well being and what that appears like for supporting the immune system. We additionally delve into another immune-supporting methods which are cheap or utterly free, and a few way of life administration stuff that we’re each doing to maintain our households wholesome and joyful proper now, within the midst of all of this. However I believe this episode is full of a variety of actually sensible suggestions, and I hope that it’ll assist you and your loved ones. And with out additional ado, let’s be a part of Tina.

Tina, welcome. Thanks for becoming a member of me once more.

Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m so excited to be right here.

Katie: I’m so excited to speak with you, and that’s certainly one of my silver linings of us each being caught in houses proper now’s that I’ve extra time to do issues like podcast, which suggests I get to speak to you at present. So, I’m gonna be extraordinarily grateful for that, and I do know that that’s your mindset as effectively is to seek out the optimistic. And other people have heard me quote you a lot, many instances. You have been the origin of my quote that every thing will work out completely for me. That got here from you, so I all the time must say that after we’re collectively or chatting.

However I’m excited at present. I believe we’ve lots to speak about proper now simply in a really well timed approach with the entire issues which are occurring and simply how unsure and a bit of bit wild every thing has gotten in the previous few weeks, in fact, with the virus and every thing else. And I can’t wait to delve into some sensible methods on this after which actually go deep on a few them. So, to begin, I’d love to listen to each out of your mindset after which on the sensible facet, what are you doing to assist your personal system and your loved ones proper now?

Tina: Yeah. I believe from the mindset is tremendous vital, Katie. I imply, that’s actually the important thing to this. That is such a scary time for folks, and I believe we must always simply shift our focus. You understand, you’re proper. I discuss gratitude on a regular basis as a result of I believe gratitude permits us to shift our focus, and I’ve been simply specializing in how joyful I’m to have extra time with my children. My one daughter is in school in California, and she or he’s residence with me now. So it’s so great to have her round and having my son…, having my children round and having time and consuming dinner collectively on the desk and all that type of stuff as a substitute of specializing in what’s occurring within the information and watching the information. And I’ve been actually attempting to deal with my thoughts as a result of it’s scary for all of us, even folks like me who actually strive to have a look at…, shift my focus in that respect.

And one of many greatest issues I do is breathwork. I’m an enormous fan of doing deep respiratory. I do meditate. I don’t meditate in addition to I believe perhaps I ought to, however I’m actually into breathwork, and meditation, train, sauna. All of these issues are simply so key throughout this time for our psychological well being in addition to our bodily well being. After which, in fact, taking all types of dietary supplements, that are tremendous critically vital, just like the probiotic, IgG, prebiotic, the vitamin C, vitamin D. Making an attempt to get outdoors as a lot as potential to get vitamin D and all these sorts of issues. Staying actually hydrated I believe can be actually vital.

Katie: Completely. And, yeah, I believe we’re gonna delve into all of these methods intimately at present, and I’m all the time reminded of…effectively, to start with, each time I discuss to you, I really feel such as you raise my spirits and also you’re simply such an excellent reminder of being grateful and discovering the optimistic. And at instances like this, I additionally consider certainly one of my favourite books is “Man’s Seek for Which means,” and there’s a quote from Viktor Frankl. He mentioned, “Every thing will be taken from a person however one factor, the final of human freedoms to decide on one’s angle in any given set of circumstances, to decide on one’s personal approach.” And I simply hold desirous about that in a time like this as a result of so many people are advised we will’t go wherever. Like, a lot we’re advised we can’t do. And that’s what I’ve been reminding my children and reminding myself is that we nonetheless have all the time the selection to decide on to be optimistic and to be grateful and to be that for others in our life as effectively.

And likewise I do know we each know Ryan Vacation, and I really like all of his books, type of his trendy strategy to stoicism. And it’s humorous as a result of there’s a Latin quote, “Amor fati,” which suggests love of destiny or principally love what’s. And that was type of my quote for this 12 months. I didn’t fairly count on to get such a crash course in it as a result of it’s straightforward to like your destiny when…, like a month in the past every thing is great, and the economic system seems to be like…every thing’s going nice, and all the youngsters are wholesome, and enterprise is nice. And it truly requires a bit of extra work after we’re truly dealing with exhausting issues, and in order that’s been my interior lesson I believe. And that is to be taught to like even the unhealthy issues as a result of there’s a lesson or there’s a silver lining or there’s an excellent in every thing, not simply the issues that in the first place look appear good.

Tina: Sure. Oh, my God, I really like that, Katie. That’s precisely the way in which I attempt to stay my life myself and attempt to unfold that to so many different folks. However I do know it’s exhausting when individuals are struggling and shedding jobs and the financial uncertainty. It’s very horrifying, however then you definately’re proper. We’ve got the ability to manage our angle towards no matter scenario that we’re introduced with.

Katie: Precisely. And that’s why I really like that we began with mindset. I believe that’s tremendous vital, and I simply hold reminding folks, too, is each storm runs out of rain, and this too shall cross. And earlier than we transfer into the well being methods, I additionally simply wanna say like I believe our phrases are so vital, and so I’m asking folks to think about altering and cease saying social distancing. Possibly say bodily distancing, however I believe we want emotional and social connection. It makes me unhappy to see folks being afraid of different folks, and I do know we’ve to maintain our distance, however let’s not social distance let’s simply bodily distance for now.

Tina: I really like that, so true.

Katie: Okay. So let’s discuss concerning the well being facet now as a result of the explanation I wished to have you ever on proper now particularly is that you’ve achieved a variety of analysis and created superb merchandise that assist intestine well being. And I do know most individuals perceive that the intestine has a extremely vital position in our immune system, however I wanna actually like…are you able to stroll us via that intimately and clarify simply how our intestine well being impacts clearly our entire physique however our immune well being?

Tina: Oh, positively. Actually, this can be a time that we needs to be specializing in our intestine well being, I imply, if there’s ever a time. I’m truly simply so grateful that I’m within the enterprise that I’m in proper now as a result of figuring out that my children and my mother and father and my in-laws and siblings and members of the family and shut associates and our household of shoppers are taking these merchandise as a result of it’s…that is essentially the most essential time to be taking good care of our intestine well being. This can be a time that we have to construct our resilience.

There isn’t a therapy proper now for COVID-19. There’s been nothing to point out that there’s a drug or pharmaceutical pure treatment on the market to point out that we might deal with or stop COVID-19. However what we do know is that we’ve to rely on our personal immune system to guard us from this as a result of there isn’t any drug or therapy on the market. And our immune system must be functioning optimally. So all of the issues we do to be wholesome are actually vital, and the intestine performs a extremely vital position within the immune system.

So, about 80% of our immune tissue is within the intestine. We began following the current research on how the immune system battles this explicit virus. There was a examine on the market that got here out of Australia, and we discovered that the examine was displaying that there was a proliferation of cells known as T cells and B cells which are required to detect and begin to battle the virus. And most of that proliferation happens within the tissues which are discovered within the intestine within the small gut, and that’s why it’s so essential to be taking good care of our intestine.

The bottom line is a more healthy microbiome as a result of it’s our microbiome that stimulates these tissues to enhance the proliferation of the immune cells. So, , take into accout our immune system is our solely protection in opposition to this virus proper now, and 80% of our immune system is within the intestine. So in case you have a dysfunctional intestine, your immune system will be suppressed or confused, or on the flip facet, in case you have a wholesome and a functioning microbiome, your immune system needs to be working extra optimally.

So the virus, this coronavirus does infect the intestine as effectively. We all know that, there was a current examine that confirmed that the virus introduced in excessive ranges in fecal matter. So it’s replicating within the intestine. And truly, there was one other examine that confirmed that 53% of the circumstances of COVID-19 present gastrointestinal signs first earlier than even a scratchy throat, like diarrhea, cramping, that kind of factor. So, the intestine immune system is attempting to determine find out how to take care of it.

So, our immune system is predominantly within the intestine, and the intestine drives the functioning and the proliferation of the immune system beginning within the intestine however then in all places else within the physique as effectively. So, it turns into a extremely vital a part of our protection mechanism, and naturally probiotics may also help. You understand, we present that the strains in Simply Thrive truly up-regulates a number of the useful immune responses within the intestine, which then interprets to the remainder of the physique as effectively.

We additionally know that the strains, the spores which are present in Simply Thrive, additionally improve the variety of micro organism in your intestine, which is admittedly vital for retaining your immune system primed and may also help hold down the pathogenic infectious micro organism and compete in opposition to them within the intestine, which is admittedly vital. As a result of like the very last thing we want proper now’s the overgrowth of any pathogenic micro organism which are producing toxins and rising irritation and rising leaky intestine as a result of all of that works in opposition to a functioning immune system. So actually, actually vital to maintain our intestine as sturdy and wholesome as potential throughout this time as a result of a lot of our immune system is present in our intestine.

Katie: Yeah. I believe that’s such an important level. Once more, to deal with what’s in our management is we all know that there aren’t any direct cures for this, even drugs that’s instantly working, though I do know that there are scientists working exhausting on that. However what we will do, such as you mentioned, is to deal with methods to fortify our personal system to have the ability to deal with this. And I additionally all the time remind folks, our immune system was designed to have the ability to do that. That is why we’ve an immune system. And so we don’t have to enter full freak out mode. We simply want to seek out some sensible methods that assist our immune system be prepared in case. And I believe, such as you simply defined, that this can be a actually vital issue is intestine well being. Are you able to discuss… I do know you probably did in your first podcast episode, and I’ll ensure that’s linked within the present notes. However simply give us a primer, once more, on the several types of probiotics and why you wanna deal with these explicit strains, particularly while you’re speaking about attempting to optimize the intestine like this.

Tina: Proper. Okay. Sure. So the strains in Simply Thrive are thought of spore-based probiotics. The vast majority of different probiotics in the marketplace are made up of Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium kind pressure. And so the vast majority of probiotics are made up of those Lactobacillus Bifidobacterium strains are very delicate organisms usually. They’ve problem surviving within the gastric system.

In reality, , many should be refrigerated to remain alive. So we all the time surprise like if it must be refrigerated to remain alive, then how on the earth will it ever survive your physique temperature, which is 98.6, not to mention the gastric system, which is so acidic and it’s referred to as the gastric barrier. And the reply is most of these strains by no means make it to the intestines alive.

One of many first research that we did as an organization was a survivability examine. We took the main promoting probiotic offered at a serious well being meals retailer that had 50 billion rely CFU, colony-forming unit, and it confirmed that 99.99% of the probiotic strains die earlier than they ever received to the intestines. Since then, an impartial third-party lab has examined a whole bunch of various probiotics in the marketplace displaying that the majority of these die, 99.9% of the cells die by the point they get to the intestines.

So actually, with a variety of these probiotics, we’re having lifeless cell remedy, which truly, there are some research that present that even lifeless micro organism will present some symptomatic reduction. The distinction with the spores which are present in Simply Thrive is that they have this endospore shell round themselves, and once more, this isn’t one thing that we’ve achieved to…, we’ve not engineered them. These are the way in which these strains that we received from the atmosphere, they naturally had this endospore shell round themselves, and after they have this shell round themselves, they’re dormant. So it’s not till they hit the intestines that they take the shell off, they usually go into their stay vegetative cell state.

So after they’re within the capsule, they’re dormant. After they have been discovered within the soil, they have been dormant. After they’re in manufacturing, they’re dormant. While you swallow them, they’re dormant. After they undergo your gastric system, they’re dormant. It’s not ’til they hit the intestines that they take their shell off they usually develop into alive, and that’s the place you want a probiotic to be alive is within the intestines.

After which the opposite large distinction is that after they get within the intestines, they really keep there for about 21 to 28 days the place they work. They go in. You understand, I really like to make use of this backyard analogy, and I believe I discussed it within the first episode is these strains go into the backyard, which you examine that to the intestine…to the intestines. They go into the backyard, they usually connect to the soil. They’ve the flexibility to eliminate the weeds within the backyard, after which they’ve the flexibility to carry vegetation which were stepped on and trampled on again to life.

So within the intestine, they’re attaching to the intestinal cell wall. They’ve the flexibility to really eliminate some pathogenic micro organism, an overgrowth of micro organism. After which they’ve the flexibility to really carry good micro organism. They create compounds and vitamins to carry the nice micro organism virtually again to life and actually make this lush, stunning, various backyard in our intestine, which is so, so critically vital to our total well being.

Katie: Completely. I believe that distinction is admittedly, actually vital and particularly proper now. And I do know that there are another methods that may go hand-in-hand with that after we’re speaking particularly about intestine well being. Proper now I’ve heard a variety of docs, for example, point out, take away something that might be inflammatory proper now, so issues like sugar or processed meals, something that may trigger irritation. After which the useful facet is placing these issues within the intestine to offer it probability, such as you mentioned, for all of these good issues to develop.

One other factor I wanna make sure that we discuss, as a result of it’s a brand new product for you guys, and I haven’t talked about on the podcast but, however there’s additionally like doubtlessly a extremely particular profit proper now’s the position of IgG. So, to begin broad, are you able to clarify to us what IgG is to start with, after which we’ll go into the supplemental facet?

Tina: Positive. Yep. IgG stands for immunoglobulin G, and immunoglobulin G is essentially the most considerable kind of antibody discovered within the physique. So, it’s the commonest antibody that’s discovered within the physique, and its job is to battle antigens, so issues like micro organism, viruses, and toxins. So it’s actually, actually vital that we’ve our IgG, our pure IgG working to battle that…, seize on.

So what IgG simply does within the physique is it binds. So it grabs on to those toxins which are discovered from, like I mentioned, viruses, bacterial overgrowth, pathogenic micro organism, viruses like mould toxins and totally different kind of environmental toxins, they usually bind them. In order that they seize onto them, after which they neutralize them in order that they’re not spreading anymore. After which the physique safely removes them from the physique via defecation. So, IgG is so essential, particularly proper now on this time.

And so we’ve developed a product known as Final IgG, and so what that does is it permit…it provides our physique about 25% extra IgG in our physique. And the precise formulation that’s in our product has been studied in different viral infections. In reality, the way in which we discovered about this ingredient was the work that we did with HIV sufferers.

We have been concerned on this consortium with HIV as a result of we all know that lots of people with HIV are…they’re dying from intestine enteropathy, not essentially the viral load. So, after I say intestine enteropathy, I’m speaking concerning the leakiness of the intestine or the permeability of our intestine. So, when we’ve LPS toxins in our intestine, they may seep into the bloodstream, and that turns into very problematic. It additionally could be very problematic for folks with HIV.

So, this IgG was truly additionally studied with totally different viral infections like HIV, and what these research present is that the IgG dramatically will increase the CD4 T cells. And these CD4 T cells are essential and what helps our adaptive immune response to proliferate. So we wish an adaptive immune response. We don’t need an innate immune response. We would like an adaptive immune response after we’re coping with a lot of these viruses.

So, in addition they present that the oral IgG binds and neutralizes bacterial toxins, mould toxins, and viral toxins. And there’s no proof that it’s binding COVID-19, and I’m not suggesting that in any respect. However there may be proof that it binds different toxins and pathogens, and this brings down that load on our immune programs, and it brings down the toxigenic impact within the physique. So it’s a extremely, actually vital supportive mechanism.

They’ve achieved research on utilizing oral IgG and different viral challenges, not COVID-19, however different viruses. And so they truly discovered that the presence of the oral IgG consumption actually helps the immune system clear these viral infections sooner than while you don’t have oral IgG. So it’s actually vital. It’s a extremely supportive mechanism of the immune system and its antiviral element. I imply, principally it’s taking the load off the immune system. One of the simplest ways to have a look at it’s like if we’re taking…, lowering the quantity of unhealthy guys, and so now we’ve extra of our pure immune system to be preventing what it must battle. So extra instruments in our immune system is principally what it does.

And, , you had talked about irritation, and I believe it’s actually vital to speak concerning the position of LPS, which I believe I’ll have talked about briefly. LPS simply stands for lipopolysaccharides. It’s an endotoxin that’s primarily present in our intestine, which isn’t actually that problematic when it’s within the intestine. It’s when it seeps into the bloodstream that our immune system has this like inflammatory response to it. And we did a double-blind human scientific trial on leaky intestine. It was printed again in 2017, and that examine truly confirmed that utilizing the spore-based micro organism, we might truly cut back the quantity of LPS leaking into the bloodstream.

You understand, and never solely is the fixed leaking of LPS within the bloodstream inflicting low-grade irritation and is the motive force of most continual situation, it’s additionally rising the expression of goal receptors of COVID-19 and different forms of viruses. So, the extra LPS you will have in your circulation simply is a serious danger issue for almost all of continual sicknesses, but it surely additionally turns into much more vital now as a result of LPS in your circulatory system will up-regulate the expression of those goal receptors of COVID-19 and different forms of viruses. So, we actually wanna ensure that we’re sealing up that intestine lining.

And each the spores have been proven in double-blind scientific trial to really assist create proteins to seal up the tight junctions to make the intestine lining stronger. However IgG has additionally proven to essentially be supportive of a a lot stronger intestine barrier operate. So, the mix is admittedly…like I mentioned, I’m simply so grateful that my children are taking it, my mother and father are taking it, my in-laws. You understand, all my household and our household of shoppers are taking it as a result of I really feel like we’re actually serving to change the world proper now on this pandemic that we’re in as a result of we’re serving to folks actually assist their immune system.

Katie: Yeah. And it’s so useful simply to have the instruments and to know you are able to do one thing that’s gonna assist your physique in case you do get the virus simply to have stronger immune well being normally. And on the observe of IgG, I believe folks could be accustomed to that time period in the event that they’ve had, for example, like meals sensitivity testing or one thing like that as a result of IgG is principally a marker as effectively within the physique from what I perceive that may…like, for example, after I do IgG testing, it exhibits an allergy to eggs or an intolerance. So I can’t eat eggs. Are you able to clarify like how all these items match collectively?

Tina: Yeah. It’s a bit of totally different. I imply, it’s the identical factor. It’s displaying how our antibodies are responding to an an infection. So, in reality, that examine I discussed in Australia, what that examine confirmed is that there was a 47-year-old girl who was to develop COVID-19, they usually have been testing her blood. They have been intently monitoring her, they usually discovered that her IgG and her IgM ranges have been heightened when the signs began to go away, so when the COVID-19 signs began to go away.

So it’s telling us that it’s the IgG and the IgM which are truly preventing this explicit virus, which is admittedly fascinating. It’s a unique mechanism than after we’re taking a look at…I imply, we simply know that the IgG is definitely preventing…, grabbing on to those explicit antigens and pathogens which are occurring in our physique proper now.

Katie: Acquired it. Okay. That is smart. And so I believe that’s vital to grasp is that that is one thing that we’ve within the physique, and also you mentioned it’s essentially the most considerable one. I do know there are additionally ones like IgM and IgA, however such as you mentioned, so IgG is the one which’s gonna be most concerned on this preventing off an infection within the physique and our skill to resist that type of factor, proper?

Tina: Proper. It’s most in demand within the physique, and it’s the commonest immunoglobulin antibody within the physique.

Katie: Acquired it. And I believe it’s additionally vital to focus on that such as you mentioned within the HIV sufferers within the examine there that individuals weren’t truly dying of the virus itself. They have been dying of the consequences of it like within the intestine endotoxins, and that seems to be what we’re seeing in a variety of circumstances with COVID is that individuals aren’t dying of the virus itself. They’re dying of, for example, sepsis or secondary issues. And so something we will do to fortify the physique to have the ability to higher deal with all of these issues I believe is simply tremendous vital proper now.

Tina: Yeah. I couldn’t agree extra. I imply, all of this stuff just like the vitamin C is tremendous vital, however supporting your intestine barrier is admittedly so, so essential to creating…we wish our immune system to be functioning optimally proper now, and that may’t be confused sufficient. And we all know that the immune system is primarily within the intestine tissue. So it’s actually, actually vital.

Katie: Completely. I do know I’ll put hyperlinks within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm to each the IgG and the probiotic in addition to to a number of the analysis that I do know you guys have and that you simply…and a number of the instructional articles in your web site so folks can proceed to delve into that. Such as you mentioned, I believe we’re gonna proceed to see analysis on this, and particularly in relation to COVID-19, we’re nonetheless very new in what we all know and what we don’t know, however to have the ability to have some sensible methods that we will implement proper now’s so useful.

And on that observe, I wanna additionally discuss like different supportive methods that you simply’re doing with your loved ones. I believe we in all probability have a variety of overlap within the strategy we’re taking. You talked about, and I do know that is gonna be a giant one for each of us however simply spending as a lot time as potential outdoors. The analysis I’m seeing is we all know not from particular research on COVID-19, however we all know from research on respiratory points, to start with, any type of respiratory sickness, that vitamin D is tremendous protecting. And we all know throughout the board that having optimized vitamin D ranges, for example, assist you be capable to higher deal with virtually each kind of sickness, and so that’s one other technique. Fortunately, it’s getting sunny in a variety of locations however one other technique that we will all implement. I do know I’m attempting to spend as a lot time as potential outdoors proper now, and I’m guessing you might be, too. However let’s discuss like daylight and vitamin D and time outdoors.

Tina: Oh, yeah, I couldn’t agree with you extra, Katie. I imply, even in the event you’re in chilly climates, it’s so vital to get outdoors. For psychological well being in addition to our bodily well being, we all know we want vitamin D to assist assist our immune system as effectively. You understand, I’ve been attempting to spend as a lot time outdoors occurring walks, sweating. I’ve actually been attempting to sweat. I’m lucky sufficient to have a sauna in my home such as you. It’s so vital to be getting that sweat, too. However I imply, even in the event you don’t have a sauna, going out and working and sweating and getting your physique heated up, which in fact helps fight, too.

I imply, the research are displaying now that the virus doesn’t like warmth. In order that’s an excellent signal. However we’ve been going outdoors, occurring bike rides, occurring walks. I believe that’s one other reward on this entire factor. I’ve seen so many extra folks outdoors on bike rides, even within the colder climate, and simply strolling as a household and spending time outdoors taking part in basketball outdoors, , simply with the household and doing various things like that. There are such a lot of items on this time. It’s unbelievable. I do know there are a variety of unhappy tales, too, however there are such a lot of items. I’m spending extra time with the youngsters and being outdoors collectively and occurring bike rides and issues like that.

Katie: Yeah. I completely agree. I do know college being deferred or canceled has been a giant change for lots of households definitely, and I do know a variety of mothers perhaps weren’t fairly prepared for summer time to begin in the course of March. However the silver lining of it, such as you mentioned, is you get time together with your children, particularly with older children, such as you wouldn’t have in all probability gotten to spend a lot high quality time with them at this level within the 12 months in the event that they have been nonetheless at school proper now.

Tina: Yeah, completely. Sure. You might be so proper. My daughter is in school in California, and she or he got here residence, and so it’s simply so great to have her residence with all of us and simply to be collectively as a household. I really feel so blessed to have that further time and never be working. That’s the factor, working from apply to apply and sport to sport. It’s been very nice to have this time collectively.

Katie: Yeah. Precisely. I hope that we will all look again ahead of later and understand that this was a good time of bonding and attending to deal with the actually vital issues like time with household. Once more, I’m hoping it will cross comparatively rapidly. We’ll see. Time will inform. However I hope that we will all in the future…

Tina: Sure, me too.

Katie: …look again and have optimistic recollections and have discovered the nice in it, and positively be fascinating to see what our youngsters look again and say, too.

Tina: Proper. I believe it’s so enjoyable seeing the youngsters develop into so inventive to do various things. You understand, I simply suppose it’s been an important problem for them additionally. I’m not saying it’s not exhausting, and I agree. I hope it passes sooner slightly than later, however simply seeing them cooking collectively and being extra inventive and doing various things. My children are older, however I imply, even like some associates you see on Fb and Instagram doing totally different enjoyable issues with their households and cooking. And the memes have been hysterical. I imply, I’ve by no means laughed so exhausting with a number of the memes on the market. My mother and I hold sending issues backwards and forwards to one another. We’ve got so many alternative group chats. We did an enormous household group FaceTime with each my husband’s facet of the household and my facet of the household. They have been like 20 of us. Nobody might hear something, however we simply laughed the entire time. So, it’s been a time to essentially snigger and luxuriate in and have time for humor.

Katie: Completely. And I determine prefer it’s a kind of issues like I’m gonna attempt to be taught. I do know your children are on TikTok. I must be taught TikTok. Like all this stuff I’d by no means have ever thought to do in any other case.

Tina: Oh, my God, that’s lucky. That’s all they’re doing is doing extra TikTok. That’s hysterical. I do know. I couldn’t agree extra.

Katie: Yeah. I agree. The memes are humorous, and I believe it’s additionally vital to consider like that is such a uncommon factor that we actually are all on this collectively, not even simply the U.S., however we’re globally on this collectively. And so, I do know that we’re all remoted however on the similar time like we’re in one thing collectively. And if we will construct the group out of this and use this time to nurture relationships and to make them stronger, I believe we will, on the opposite facet of this hopefully all emerge stronger and higher and extra related. That’s my hope.

Tina: Completely. I imply, I see it already. I really feel like I’m making extra calls to folks I’ve been out of contact with and simply touching base with folks that point didn’t permit me earlier than to do this. So, it’s very, very true. And there’s so many cool studying. I believe mother and father are studying all these totally different studying instruments on the market. There are such a lot of on-line sources, and I believe individuals are beginning to understand that they may take a much bigger position of their youngster’s studying. That’s fairly cool, too.

Katie: Yeah. It’ll be actually fascinating to see the lasting modifications within the training system that come from this. And what I’ve been encouraging my children to do…as a result of I believe boredom is the large wrestle for teenagers particularly as all of us regulate to love, “How do you retain everybody busy after we’re all in the identical home?” And so what I’ve been encouraging my children to do is I’m like, “We’ve got actually everything of knowledge, human info out there at your fingertips via the web. So how are you gonna use this hopefully solely in subsequent couple of weeks however perhaps months to enhance your self?”

And so I’ve even, since we do homeschool, been letting them negotiate. I’m like, “Come to me with a proposal and inform me the way you’re gonna enhance your self within the subsequent two months and what abilities are you gonna be taught. Let’s make this a time of like constructing and enhancing and never simply pondering of all of the unhealthy that’s gonna occur.” And so we’re collectively studying Japanese. I’ve received children studying harmonica and piano. One is studying find out how to do a backflip, which I’d die of coronary heart fright from watching her, however she, I’ve little question, will get it. And in order that’s my different encouragement to mothers is like let or not it’s enjoyable. Let or not it’s a sport. And like how can all of us enhance ourselves. I’m lastly performing some train lessons way more usually as a result of I’m residence and have time to do them.

Tina: Proper. Me too. Proper. Precisely.

Katie: Yeah. So the opposite factor we will discuss each from the mother perspective and the well being facet is the significance of a day by day routine normally but additionally like an immune-supporting day by day routine proper now. And so like I’ll share some issues that I believe are useful and you may construct on them. I’ve talked about it earlier than, however I’m a giant fan of sunshine. Not only for the vitamin D, I believe that’s tremendous vital as effectively. However I’ve all the time inspired folks, and I attempt to on a regular basis go outdoors actually quickly after waking up and get pure gentle as quickly as potential after waking up, and that is also vital for immune well being and hormone well being and so many different issues as a result of that gentle alerts the entire circadian cascade. And in order that’s one thing easy and free that we will all do is simply get gentle as quickly as potential after waking up.

Additionally, I’ve been tightening up my fasting routine proper now simply within the identify of supporting immune well being. What I’ve been studying from the researchers on this like Dr. Peter Attia. He’s saying we don’t know if lengthy water fasts are good proper now as a result of we simply don’t have any analysis on that, and there’s an opportunity they may…like throughout a protracted quick, you may briefly suppress the immune system. In order that they’re not recommending lengthy fasts, however they’re recommending type of what they name circadian fasting, which is simply consuming in a shorter window throughout the day, no matter window that finally ends up being for you, after which simply not consuming after darkish. And that’s one other signaling mechanism as a result of meals is a part of that circadian biology.

And so principally like we began speaking about from the very starting of this episode like what are some ways in which we will work in concord with our circadian biology and with our biology to assist the immune system naturally and to assist hormone well being naturally and simply to optimize each issue. So, these are a pair I’m doing. I’m additionally ensuring all of us take clearly probiotics and IgG after which additionally vitamin D and vitamin C and get motion day by day. How has your routine modified since we’ve all develop into homebound?

Tina: Yeah. I wanna piggyback on that fasting as a result of I actually am so glad you talked about that as a result of that…I just lately during the last 12 months or so I’ve been working towards intermittent fasting, and I can’t stress how vital that’s sufficient proper now as a result of we all know…from the leaky intestine examine that we did, it confirmed us that each time we eat, it causes…particularly if we’ve a leaky intestine, which lots of people…they’re estimating 80% of the grownup inhabitants has a leaky intestine. It causes this inflammatory response. I imply, in fact, all of us must eat. So I’m not suggesting that we don’t eat, however I believe limiting the time is admittedly, actually essential to be supporting our immune system as a result of we don’t need that inflammatory response frequently. And we wanna make sure that we’re tightening up the intestine barrier and all of that and the leakiness of the intestine.

However I agree with the fasting. I agree with getting outdoors like we talked about. And the breathwork with the sleep is so vital. I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I used to be simply on one other podcast the opposite day, and I saved speaking about how vital that’s. And I believe it’s actually exhausting proper now with the youngsters not being on a daily schedule to permit them to sleep in, and but that’s in all probability one of many worst issues that we…

We would like them to get sufficient sleep, however we don’t need them to be messing round with their circadian rhythm and their sleep cycles that they’re accustomed to as a result of that’s probably not nice for his or her immune system both. So, I’d positively agree with you on that concerning the sleep for positive. I’ve been figuring out like loopy, too.

Simply the sweating alone is simply I believe actually vital doing a variety of figuring out. I don’t suppose like actually exhausting, exhausting strenuous exercise is sweet both as a result of that would trigger an excessive amount of stress on the physique, too. You understand, figuring out and getting a sweat going I believe is admittedly vital, and like I discussed, the breathwork.

I imply, I agree we have to keep away from sugar, and I’ve been actually attempting to do this as effectively. It’s actually exhausting proper now with the youngsters as a result of they’re residence, and it’s like, “Oh, let’s deal with ourselves,” and attempting to keep away from alcohol, however I’m all the time so grateful for Dry Farm Wines that they don’t have sugar of their wines. So, throughout this time it’s been very nice. I’m like, “Ensure that we don’t run out of our Dry Farm Wines,” and I do know you’re a giant fan, too.

Katie: Yeah. Positively shout out to Todd, and likewise simply they’ve been a lightweight and an inspiration throughout this entire factor as effectively. Even separate of the wine, I do know the emails I’m getting from them they’re…regardless that they will’t all come collectively as a staff, they’re doing group meditation and grateful apply each single day by way of the web by way of Zoom, they usually’re nonetheless making {that a} precedence. And so they have even been like letting different folks be a part of them and simply attempting to encourage everybody to maintain the deal with gratitude even throughout the exhausting time. And fortunately, they have been declared a vital exercise, and so mine continues to be out there. I believe a variety of mothers proper now may agree that wine is a vital.

Tina: Sure. Precisely. And thank God for Dry Farm, precisely. After which, clearly, I’ve been taking a number of vitamin C. So, that’s been nice, and naturally, I really like Paleovalley vitamin C. I believe you’re a fan, too, so simply a number of nice…there’s so many nice issues on the market that would assist us simply get via this time for positive, so many nice dietary supplements, so many nice instruments that you simply simply talked about. I believe we’re very lucky to have all these instruments in our toolbox.

Katie: I agree, and I’ll make sure that, like I mentioned, that every thing is linked within the present notes, and in the event you guys are listening, I’ll additionally put swipe up hyperlinks to those issues on Instagram, so you will discover them.

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Tina: Sure. Thank goodness, we simply received an enormous cargo in like two days in the past truly, and so we’re actually lucky as a result of it has been promoting like loopy. It’s unbelievable how rapidly it’s been promoting, particularly the IgG and the probiotic, in fact, is all the time a prime vendor for us, however the IgG is simply going loopy as a result of we hold listening to about it.

You understand, you take heed to the press briefings, the White Home press briefings, and also you all the time hear the docs speaking concerning the IgG and your IgM and your IgG, and so I believe individuals are beginning to perceive, “Wait, I would like to concentrate to what IgGs do within the physique.” So, yeah, that’s been promoting like loopy. So, proper now we do. So hopefully, it’ll keep that approach so we might get it out to as many individuals as potential. We truly did begin placing a restrict on orders as a result of we simply don’t wish to have a hoarding scenario both as a result of that was taking place at first, too.

Katie: Acquired it. Yeah. And that’s one other factor to talk to from, like simply the mother facet via all that is I do know there’s all types of encouragement on-line to please not hoard and solely take what we really need proper now however simply to reiterate that and likewise to be supportive. I do know like I’ve been texting those that stay close to us and simply checking in like, “Do you guys want something? Can I depart something in your porch?” You understand, like I believe that facet of group is admittedly vital as issues do inventory out, which is admittedly unhappy to see, and particularly I do know there’s even some aged folks in our space that weren’t in a position to get issues like bathroom paper as a result of folks have been hoarding it. And so I additionally simply encourage folks like test in. I do know we will’t like bodily test in, however test in with folks close to you and see how one can assist and construct group. And I believe like if all of us deal with that. Hopefully, this factor will finish quickly, but when not, we’re all gonna get via it higher than we entered hopefully.

Tina: Completely. And, sure, that’s I believe one other…I’m glad you introduced that up, too. Simply serving to all people within the neighborhood and group has been nice, and I believe it’s been nice for the youngsters, too. And I believe that’s one other good thing to do for the youngsters is getting them concerned in that, and perhaps driving their bikes and bringing over a pair rolls of bathroom paper to the aged and different folks locally which are immunocompromised and shouldn’t be going to the shop in any respect both.

So, I agree. One other reward is to point out the youngsters find out how to give again as a result of I believe children are so centered on their actions, and we’ve to go to this apply and this apply, and we’ve received homework and do that. It’s like this can be a time to permit them to offer again greater than they perhaps had time to in any other case.

Katie: Yeah, such an excellent perspective. Okay. So on a sensible stage simply dosage smart. I do know that neither of us are docs, and we’re not attempting to offer medical recommendation. Though, for anybody listening, I do know telemedicine is what they’re saying is the choice proper now. Like, don’t go wherever except you completely must medically. So I’ll put a hyperlink to SteadyMD, which is my type of concierge telemedicine that I take advantage of with our household. So, in the event you do want to speak to a medical skilled, I’ll put that hyperlink within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. However with out giving medical recommendation, Tina, I’m curious, like simply stroll us via what dosing you’re taking of all of the totally different merchandise proper now to assist your immune system.

Tina: Okay. Positive. So the probiotic I take usually I’d take one a day. Throughout this time, I’m taking two a day, and after we say two a day, I take two on the similar time, and also you all the time take it after a meal. That’s what I all the time do. However, , one or two a day is so, so vital, and even in the event you took a half of the capsule day by day or one capsule each different day, you might be in such a greater form than any person that’s not getting these spores in them. So I’d positively suggest doing that.

The IgG might be my subsequent precedence. I take 4 of these a day. The traditional dosage is 4 a day. The one cause I’ve my mother and father, my in-laws taking greater than that as a result of I simply actually wanna ensure that they’re completely supported as a result of they’re saying it’s affecting the aged a bit of bit extra. Not that I contemplate any of them aged as a result of they really feel so younger, however they meet the age standards, so 4 a day for most individuals.

You possibly can take as much as 10 a day as a result of the examine that was achieved on the elements truly was 5 grams, four capsules of our product is 2 grams. So anyway, you would take as much as 10 capsules, however I often take four a day. I take a scoop stuffed with our prebiotic. In fact, the prebiotic is so, so vital as a result of it’s serving to feed our good micro organism in our intestine. So, I try this.

After which I take vitamin C. I take like 4 or 5 of the Paleovalley vitamin C. I’m taking about 30,000 IUs of the vitamin D however principally attempting to get outdoors attempting to do this. What else am I doing for… I’ve so many dietary supplements, Katie. You possibly can solely think about, and, in fact, our vitamin K2 I’m taking. As a result of while you’re taking vitamin D, it’s good to take the vitamin K2.

Oh, our Gluten Away product. That’s the opposite factor, Gluten Away. I imply, we don’t must get into that. We might do an entire different episode. However that’s actually vital as a result of after we’re consuming gluten, there’s a examine that present that everybody that eats gluten, even in the event you don’t have any outward signs of gluten intolerance, it’s nonetheless displaying this inflammatory response. So, I’m attempting to take gluten away earlier than I eat so it might assist defend a bit of little bit of that. It’s not a alternative for a gluten-free weight loss program and that we might discuss that later. Largely the probiotic, the IgG are a primary precedence, our prebiotic K2 vitamin. After which vitamin C can be in all probability quantity three precedence and vitamin D. That’s about it. I do know I’m taking extra, however I can’t actually keep in mind all of them.

Katie: Yeah. I’m in a really comparable protocol, and I’ll kind that out and put it within the present notes so that you guys can discover all of these issues instantly. However I believe as we like get near wrapping up, it’s vital to reiterate the place we began, which is like do all of this stuff bodily to assist your self and your immune system and get sleep and sweat and take dietary supplements. But in addition on the finish of the day, mindset is large as effectively, particularly for both mothers listening, like our mindset so typically impacts the entire household. It like type of has a ripple impact, and so to the diploma that we will keep optimistic and grateful and all of these issues, that may assist our youngsters navigate this as effectively, and simply to deal with the blessings which are hidden on this within the household time and the flexibility to for these of us who’re residence have extra time to deal with issues and tasks and stuff that we’ve been ready to do.

Tina: Yeah. I couldn’t agree extra. The mindset is so vital, Katie. And the one factor I forgot to say is affirmations and simply saying that. You understand, being cautious, such as you mentioned, together with your phrases, the phrases that you simply use however saying issues like, “I’m excellent well being. I’m well being. I’m in excellent well being or I’m wholesome,” or no matter it’s that you simply wanna say, however saying these issues out loud. And it’s not that they miraculously occur. It’s that you simply’re placing that on the market to the world, and then you definately make selections that may assist a wholesome way of life. So I believe, , saying affirmations and having that optimistic mindset is so, so essential to your immune well being, is so essential.

Katie: I agree. And like I mentioned, hyperlinks to every thing might be within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. So in the event you guys are hopefully perhaps within the sunshine exercising whilst you’re listening to this, you will discover the entire hyperlinks there. And also you guys depart feedback within the present notes, and each of us will reply questions. I do know we each wanna be to no matter diploma we will be remotely a supply of assist for any of you guys, and I believe the group is so, so vital proper now. And I’m so grateful for the “Wellness Mama” group and, Tina, for you and for your loved ones and for everybody spreading positivity and being a supply of assist proper now.

Tina: Nicely, thanks, Katie. I’m so grateful for you and for the platform that you’ve for folks and listeners. You might be a tremendous human being. So thanks.

Katie: Nicely, thanks. And due to all of you for listening, for sharing your most useful asset, your time with us at present. We’re each so grateful that you simply have been right here, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” And I hope that quickly will probably be with all of us not in isolation, however keep optimistic and keep grateful and keep effectively.

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